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  •  Whoops, here's the rest of it! (4.00 / 43)

    Not only am I a couple of days late getting this finished and posted, it looks like I exceeded the invisible limit for length in the extended section.

    Here's what got chopped off:

    Clothing: plan for the extremes

    coldNothing beats having clean, dry clothing to change into when you're cold, wet, dirty, and tired.  For temperature-sensitive humans, clothing is our first and sometimes only line of defense against illness or death due to exposure.

    As the section title says, plan for the extremes.  If disaster struck your area and you needed to hike home from work or school, do you have the appropriate clothing and footwear to survive the journey?

    First, a word about mosquitos and biting insects.  Your preparedness kits must include some form of insect repellent.  It will, literally, help keep you alive in a disaster, when biting insects begin to spread infectious disease.  Get the strongest DEET-based repellent you can find; a malaria outbreak is NOT the time to be trying out weak-ass alternatives like Skin-so-soft.

    Next, a word about sunscreen.  Keep a supply of high-SPF sunscreen in your vehicle and replace it yearly.  Simple enough.

    On to the clothing...

    Headwear: hats are cheap but crucial.  Keep a sun hat or cap and a winter hat for each person in all of your preparedness kits.  Remember, you don't have to look good, you just have to stay alive, so feel free to scrounge cheap but serviceable headwear for this.

    Footwear: your work and vehicle preparedness kits must include footwear.  Your correspondent's work kit has an old but serviceable pair of athletic shoes, while his vehicle kit has a well-broken-in pair of insulated 8" combat boots.  The key here is that storing a brand-new pair of shoes is a Very Bad Idea.  You will injure your feet and thereby endanger your ability to function in an emergency if you try hiking 10 miles in a brand-new pair of shoes.

    Socks/underwear: While a change of underwear is nice to have, socks are crucial to your well-being, and they're cheap.  Keep a sealed pack of generic white athletic socks in each of your preparedness kits.  Add at least one pair of underwear for each member of your household in a ziplock bag.  (Aren't ziplock bags great?)

    Clothing: Layers, people, layers. Recommended per person: several t-shirts, 1 pair utility shorts with lots-o-pockets, poly fleece sweatpants, poly fleece pullover, oversized Army-type long-sleeve shirt and pants sprayed with waterproofing, wind/waterproof outer jacket.  Adjust plan for kids, but make sure they have a similar range of clothing.  Seal clothes into labeled waterproof bag(s).

    Protective gear: Heavy leather gloves, light leather gloves, kneepads,
    wide strong belt capable of supporting your full weight.  Draeger Piccola dust masks with breathing valve very strongly recommended -- research post-9/11 respiratory ailments in NYC if you want to know why.

    Shelter

    galva3Be prepared to protect your shelter in advance of a storm and make emergency repairs afterwards.

    Consider your options for overnight shelter if you are:

    • Stranded at work
    • Stranded in your vehicle
    • Unable to occupy your home

    Suggested items for preparedness kits include plastic tarps with tie-down grommets and 100' of nylon cord (all kits), blankets (all kits), and a tent big enough for your family (home kit).

    To be covered in Part 5:  Medical, Assembling Preparedness Kits, Security and Firearms, Preparedness Training, and a hyperlink roundup.

    Copyright note: All images are copyright of their original owners.  For image attribution, click through on any image and follow the link in the image description on the Flickr page.

    -AG

    "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
    watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
    I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

    by AlphaGeek on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:43:29 PM PDT

    •  Fantastic work, AG! (none / 1)

      This is just awesome. Thank you!


      Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed. -- Bruce Springsteen

      by Plutonium Page on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:50:56 PM PDT

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    •  p.s. (none / 1)

      Looking forward to part 5, of course.  You'll see our fellow gun nerds come out of the woodwork.


      Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed. -- Bruce Springsteen

      by Plutonium Page on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:52:10 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks, PPage (4.00 / 12)

        This is one of those projects that started out small and rapidly got out of hand.  :)

        -AG

        "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
        watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
        I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

        by AlphaGeek on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:54:22 PM PDT

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        •  You should add all of these diaries to... (4.00 / 4)

          ...the DKospedia. Everyone tells me it's easy. But these are the best complete reference I've read online pertaining to emergency preparedness and, as such, should be kept someplace safe and easily accessible.

          I also think this is the longest diary I've ever read every single word of! Well done.

          The sleep of reason produces monsters.

          by Alumbrados on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:46:07 PM PDT

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    •  Portable lighting section (4.00 / 13)

      Frickin' Scoop.  <sigh>

      = Portable lighting =

      The topic of portable lighting, like the Water category above, is probably worthy of an entire Diary article of its own.  We shall briefly touch on the various technologies available today and some of their trade-offs.  As always, feel free to post questions in the Comments below.

      Incandescent: Commonly available, dirt cheap, and a VERY poor value compared to LED-based lights.  Batteries are a crucial resource in a crisis, and these lights are terribly wasteful in comparision to LEDs.

      LEDs: All hail the mighty LED.  From lanterns to headlamps to hand-held flashlights, the power-sipping LED is revolutionizing portable lighting.  What's not to love?  OK, so the color of the light output can be a bit annoying, and light makers haven't quite figured out how to build good reflectors to spread the light aroud evenly, but these are minor nitpicks.

      SureFire and clones: Positives: blindingly bright, well-constructed, compact, and use lithium batteries which last 10 years on the shelf.  Negatives: A set of batteries lasts as little as 60 minutes, and costs at least $2.50 to replace -- and that's when you buy in bulk.

      Fluorescent lanterns: Relatively power-efficient, though nowhere near as good as LEDs.  Bright.  Attract bugs like you wouldn't believe.  Bulky compared to head lamps and hand-held lights, smaller than propane or dual-fuel lanterns.

      Combustion-type lanterns: Bright, run off of commonly available, shelf-stable fuels (propane, gasoline, etc.).  Somewhat portable, but get extremely hot and will cause second-degree burns, as your author can say from personal experience.  VERY dangerous in situations where LP or natural gas leaks may be present, e.g. in the first 48 hours after a major earthquake, so use only in known-safe areas.

      "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
      watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
      I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

      by AlphaGeek on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:53:01 PM PDT

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      •  As a ham radio operator (4.00 / 2)

        I've been on top of this stuff for well over a decade. I used to try to get others involved in ensuring their own safety and welfare. Got little response or interest from folks. Now, after the fact, there is a whole lot of interest. Give it a couple of years and everyone will be back to watching the tube.

        An aside:(Can you imagine how different things would have been at the Superdome if everyone had brought a couple of gallons of water instead of suitcases full of clothes?)

        However, if folks are really interested in ensuring their own welfare, diaries like these are well worth reading. And, personally, I've found that ham radio puts me right in the middle of things when it comes to this sort of stuff, and that's a good place to be. For instance, I'm a Skywarn certified weather spotter and contribute to emergency radio nets on a regular basis. It keeps me in touch with local police and FEMA folks (ones who actually have a clue, not Bush apointees.)

        Get into ham radio and stop pretending with cell phones. It's not that difficult these days.

        -6.88/-5.64 * We won! We won!.... Now back on your heads.

        by John West on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:32:10 PM PDT

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        •  BTW (none / 1)

          If you review the entire NO tragedy, you'll soon come to the realization that an enormous number of the problems that occurred could have been solved before they even started if there had been effective communications (and no, I don't mean cell phones.)

          -6.88/-5.64 * We won! We won!.... Now back on your heads.

          by John West on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:42:00 PM PDT

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        •  CQCQCQCQ (none / 0)

          Kilo-alpha-one-november-yankee-victor
          Got my novice class in the 8th grade. Been hooked since.

          "Bring it On!" is not a Foreign Policy

          by demdragon on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:50:34 PM PDT

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          •  10-4, good buddy! :) (none / 0)

            Sorry, I just had to do that.

            What's really frustrating about the whole Katrina communications nightmare is that I have 200 high power Motorola FM rigs just sitting in storage here in MI. If folks in NO had been using them, FEMA screwups or not, things would have been very different. But I imagine that when the next such tragedy comes along they'll still be sitting in storage.

            -6.88/-5.64 * We won! We won!.... Now back on your heads.

            by John West on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:59:08 PM PDT

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        •  Ham radio operators are critical in a crisis (none / 0)

          I've read this and other comments you've posted on this thread.  It's clear to me that folks like you, John, do make a huge difference in a crisis.

          That said, I do want to take you to task for the throwaway line at the end of your comment:

          Get into ham radio and stop pretending with cell phones. It's not that difficult these days.

          Bloody near everyone has a cellphone.  Relatively few of the readers of this series have the time, money, or inclination to get a basic ham license and equipment.  I think I took a pretty fair position on ham radio in this installment, considering that.

          It's all about doing the most good for the most people -- and most people will, in fact, be depending on their cellphones in an emergency.  It would have been unrealistic to assume otherwise, and I have tried throughout to help people make more effective use of the resources they already have available.

          -AG

          "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
          watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
          I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

          by AlphaGeek on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 11:36:19 PM PDT

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      •  I am in awe of your information (none / 1)

        This is terrific - I am sharing this with everyone that I can think of.

        We know now without a doubt that it is up to us - and up to us only to safeguard our families.

        Thank you so much for this information.

        "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

        by sara seattle on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:51:25 PM PDT

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      •  Hand crank flashlight (4.00 / 2)

        LL Bean has just started offering a no-battery LED flashlight.  Crank it up for an hour of light.

        An interesting concept.

        On showers-marine stores carry an item called a sun shower, which is essentially a black bag with a hose, a clamp, and a shower head.  You leave the bag in the sun, and in several hours it is warm enough to give you a quick sluice-off.  And they really work.

        Dishes can be washed in salt water, and salt water soap is also sold in marine stores.  Likewise salt water shampoo, although I never liked the result.

        Books on long distance ocean crusing are very helpful for articles on cooking and eating without grocery stores or refrigeration.  One interesting suggestion is growing your own bean sprouts from dry beans.

        The portable refrigerator/freezer that works off your car or boat engine works, but consumes a fair amount of fuel.

        The Origo catalytic alcohol stove is a daisy.  The fuel can be stored in your house, and the stove is not pressurized so you are not risking your house when you use it.  With 2 Origo's you are really cooking.

      •  Carbide is worth a look (none / 1)

        Carbide lanterns are worth a look: carbide pellets last forever, they are not flammable unless immersed in water (so if you seal them in your favorite and mine (ziplock bags) they're not a problem) and they're very reliable. The latest ones have safety features that weren't available 100 years ago, but the basic design is age-old and well tested.

        However, it's highly unwise to use them in tightly confined spaces, in much the same way that it is highly unwise to use any combustion-based products in tightly confined spaces. (Or even not-so-tightly-confined spaces, for any extended period of time.)

        •  Got a link? (none / 0)

          The technology sounds familiar -- it's the Galvanick Lucipher from Neal Stephenson's fantastic book 'Cryptonomicon'.  Didn't realize that they still made lights like that.

          Please post a link to a product page if you have one.

          -AG

          "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
          watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
          I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

          by AlphaGeek on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 12:22:35 AM PDT

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          •  Well, I got mine from a friend. (none / 0)

            I originally got my lantern from a friend. I believe it was a Premier. It's also lying deep in a vertical crack in a cave somewhere in Oregon. (Always have three light sources while spelunking.)

            In any case, here's the info on carbide lamps (scroll down a bit, it's below the Davy Lamps) and here is where you can buy carbide pellets. (They also list the Minex light, which appears to be currently out of stock, but which is apparently still being manufactured somewhere in India.) I have not yet bought from them. They sell the carbide in large quantities, admittedly: the problem is that since calcium carbide is classified as a hazardous material, it can't be shipped by normal methods.

            Here is a good guide to buying an old-style carbide lamp. Also check out IMO which has quite a lot of cap-lights with separate belt generators. (Which I'd never heard of before I started looking into this... interesting stuff. Maybe I'll get a generator and a cap-light.)

            More useful information: the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for calcium carbide is here though if you know anything about MSDSes you know to take some of it with a grain of salt. (I wouldn't go licking calcium carbide pellets but I've never heard of anyone being seriously burned by one. Still, better safe than sorry.)

            It's less dangerous all around than storing gasoline, lamp oil, lamp alcohol, or any other volatile liquid, let alone storing CNG or other flammable gas in (say) earthquake country, but it's also differently dangerous: if your entire house burns down, the pellets will probably still be sitting there, inert, when the ashes have cooled. If you have a house fire (that the carbide tablets are in) and attempt to extinguish it with water, you suddenly end up with a bunch of acetylene gas, which can make a small fire into a big one, in much the same way that a can of paint thinner or a canister of CNG could. In fact, it's probably best to handle a container of carbide pellets like you would a container of flammable gas... for obvious reasons.

            And keep a chemical fire extinguisher, don't try to rely on your garden hose or something. Which is, come to think of it, a good idea in any case.

            -fred

        •  carbide/multifuel lanterns (none / 0)

          carbide is very cheap (if you don't have to pay for hazmat shipping), has a high energy density, they are bright compared to candles, and the lamps can take a beating. Be warned that carbide lamps are contankerous. Gas production can vary and the flame can go from 1/4" to 4 inches long, so keep flamables away. If you plan to use a carbide lamp, read caving books. Carbide lamps require small quantities of water to operate. In an emergency, you can use urine; it works but you won't like the smell. You can also use contaminated water. Before I could become a member of the local (at the time) caving club, I had to demonstrated that I could dismantle, reassemble, clean the nozzle, fill, and light the lamp while blindfolded. To obtain carbide, try to find a local caving club and see if they are still using it; the club I was a member of bought it in bulk. Store (particularly in bulk) away from the house as it produces flamable acytelene gas when you attempt to extinguish a fire with water. Spent carbide continues to generate gas and many a caver has singed their eyebrows by looking in their dump bottle (with a lit lamp on their head). Baby bottles are good for storing carbide and waste if you are traveling. Don't seal the dump bottle tightly (remove the rubber gasket/nipple). A survival trick used by cavers is to keep a trash bag in the helmet. Make a hole and wear the bag while sitting (knees inside bag) with the carbide lamp inside the bag between your knees for heat - but be carefull not to set yourself on fire. An 8 oz (volume) bottle of carbide will fuel a lamp for 18-24 hours. Fuel is harder to come by now and isn't likely to be resupplied in an emergency. You can buy 12 oz for $13.80, delivered. Carbide is corrossive.

          If you don't already have a lamp, though, I am not sure I would recommend running out and buying one.

          In a disaster situation, it is difficult to get resupplied with any fuel at all let alone the particular type of fuel you need for a particular device. And with Peak Oil and other petroleum supply problems and global warming, investing in petroleum based products is not a great idea. Its a bit pricy ($190 with accessories for the high end version), but I just discovered that britelyt makes multi-fuel lanterns that convert to a stove (light and heat simultaneously) and will apparently burn almost any liquid fuel including bio-diesel, ethanol, methanol, vegetable oil (third party claim), kerosene, diesel, gasoline, mineral spirits, charcoal lighter fluid, lamp oils, Citronella oil, coleman fuel, charcoal lighter fluid, used motor oil, and waste fuel (>6mo old). In stove mode, it is rather tall. Provides light, heat, and cooking. Safe for use indoors with methanol (which doesn't produce carbon monoxide), not sure about other fuels. This lantern is a multi-fuel descendent of the petromax. They say it produces 400W of light; is that the equivalent of a 400W incandescent bulb or 400W of actual visable light energy. The web site is very disorganized, incoherent and inconsistent in places, and makes some suspicious claims such as the safety of methanol (methanol is toxic when absorbed through skin), and does not list all the fuels in one place. For what they are charging, I would like to see lab reports where they burn every type of fuel claimed (and maybe crude oil, too, considering that in some situations, such as after Katrina, using crude might make sense), for one week continuously with carbon monoxide measurements, fuel tank temperature measurements, report of the number of times clogs must be cleared, report of any fires, fuel usage, heat output, light output, etc. Some fuels, such as vegetable oil, contain constituents that polymerize when heated and create clogs. I also find it suspicious that the organization that provided the intended to appear independent safety report is in the same town as the manufacturer. I also think the lantern should have extra leg attachements (or maybe modify the reflector attachment to double as a base) to reduce the risk of tipping when used as a stove. From the forums, it appears that straight vegetable oil or homemade biodiesel might cause clogs. And methanol might be a separate lantern. I also think they are abusing the patent system by patenting their design changes that are pretty trivial looking and sufficiently obvious to anyone sufficiently knowledgable in the art. Fuel tank gets hot? Make minor modifications bottom plate between the fuel tank and the burner. Replacing the seal on the pump with an o-ring? (Optionally) replacing the pump with an intertube nozzle so you can use an external pump to pressurize tank (as if that fitting wasn't used on lots of pumps). I didn't look at the changes made to the nozzle in detail but there was nothing that appeared innovative about the result. I realize they may have problems with cheap knockoffs but their abuse of the patent system could have serious negative consequences for the alternative fuel device industry and society as a whole. If these patented things are actually new to the lamp industry, it is because no one with any talent has been doing anything significant with lamp designs (at least not anyone who has the resources to bring a product to market); the same techniques are used in other closely related market segments all the time. Not that they haven't spent some time developing things but their patented "innovations" appear to be nothing more than someone finally updating a 100 year old lamp design with 50 year old technology but the patents could interfere with anyone doing truly innovative work from using 50 year old technology in other areas of the design. As many tech folks are now aware, the patent system has become more of a hindrance than an incentive for innovation. While I would like to see a true multifuel design, I am not sure if this is the company that will bring it to us (and make it widely availible) or the company that will interfere with people who really can.

          --
          -6.25, -6.36 Worst. President. Dictator. Ever.

          by whitis on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 10:30:33 PM PDT

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    •  Good point about the breathing ... (4.00 / 4)

      ...masks. The same kind I use when running the power saw, router or sander.

      I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land. -- Mark Twain

      by Meteor Blades on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:54:42 PM PDT

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    •  Hoorah! More wisdom, practical steps (4.00 / 4)

      For those of us in hurricane country, thanks for giving us the Cadillac of thought, planning, scope, and lists.  Everyone in Tornado Alley and on fault lines should be just as engaged as those of us on the storm coasts.

      If anyone else thinks they're not at risk, they should take a gander at Paul in Berkeley's diary.  He transcribes the NPR report as to how the FEMA career staffers watched the inactivity in their office after the daily staff briefings sent to Chertoff and Brown prior to and at landfall of Katrina.  Yes, it was along the lines of "Katrina determined to hit U.S. mainland," as has been noted before on this site.

      Thanks, A.G., for such a carefully and thoroughly crafted community service.  In times that would paralyze, flummox, and stymie, you have given us a practical approach for us to care for our own.  To work, everyone!

      Books are humanity in print. Barbara Tuchman

      by gazingoffsouthward on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 12:57:20 PM PDT

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    •  Don't forget medications! (4.00 / 3)

      I have lupus and megaloblastic anemia, and this advice was given to me by my doctor in case I ever have to evaculate.

      At least a month's worth of OTC and prescription medicines should be stored in waterproof containers in a safe, accessible place.  You should also have at least one additional script for any of the medications if you run out and need to have stuff refilled in a strange place. If you need to use syringes be sure you have a safety container to dispose of them in.  If any medications (insulin, certain other drugs) that need to be kept cool, there are small portable containers that can keep them fairly cool.

      If you have a chronic medical condition, you might want to have your doctor do a one page summary of your condition/s and medication/s.  Seal it it a watertight baggie and keep it with you.  Get a Medic Alert bracelet and alert rescue workers to your medical conditions.

      There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people in the world and those who don't. -- Robert Benchley -5.75, -7.18

      by Rogneid on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:43:08 PM PDT

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      •  Great advice, thanks (none / 0)

        I'll be sure to include that in the Medical Preparedness section of Part 5.  Good, workable real-world techniques!

        -AG

        "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
        watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
        I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

        by AlphaGeek on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 01:48:24 PM PDT

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        •  Extra Medications (none / 1)

          Great idea but I am not clear abut how that would work as far as (a) getting them and (b)expiration dates.
          •  You should consider (4.00 / 4)

            keeping a copy of your medical records (updated every 3 months for chronic conditions, 12 months for healthy people) with your other important documents, i.e; mortgage, marriage license, birth certificates, automobile titles, children's immunization records (updated whenever they get a shot), childrens' education records (updated every school semester) in a fireproof box in your house, saferoom, etc.
            I scan all of these documents and keep copies in PDF format on a USB drive, and on CD at my sister's and dad's houses.

            "I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a democrat."--Will Rogers

            by soonergrunt on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 04:01:28 PM PDT

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            •  Freezer (none / 1)

              In a pinch put a copy of all your records in a zip lock freezer bag and store in your freezer.  Freezers hold up well in fires, earthquakes, tornados.  If you have to leave your house you just grab and go.  

              Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/22/gi_bill/index.html opposition

              by ScienceMom on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 06:51:37 PM PDT

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            •  I really like that idea. (none / 0)

              I think I'll add that to my kit.

              There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people in the world and those who don't. -- Robert Benchley -5.75, -7.18

              by Rogneid on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 10:51:29 PM PDT

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          •  When in Utah (none / 1)

            I had a doctor who would write me a separate two week prescription for the drugs I was on, and give me script as well to put in my kit.

            The pharmacist wrote the expiration date of the drugs on the bottle for me when I told her it was for an emergency kit.

            There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people in the world and those who don't. -- Robert Benchley -5.75, -7.18

            by Rogneid on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 10:49:35 PM PDT

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      •  Here's another problem re: storing meds in advance (none / 0)

        Beyond shelf life, need to refrigerate, or cost of certain prescription medications, there are restrictions imposed by medical insurance that prevents a person from buying too much in advance.

        For example, one medication that I have taken is a highly controlled drug. Insurance companies prevent pharmacies in my state (NJ) from filling more than X-amount of drug Y within time period Z (usually 30 days).

        That means if I wanted to go on a sailing trip to Tahiti, I'd have to get some extra special okay from the insurance company (and the Pope) to load up on this stuff. Thus to buy 3 months of this prescription to pack away "just in case" would be difficult, not to mention expensive.

        Then, what does a person do once the crisis is in motion if you can't get your medication? [Remember all those "looters" in NOLA? Under certain circumstances that could be me.]

        It won't be pretty.

        "We need, in every community, a group of angelic troublemakers..." -- Bayard Rustin

        by BK here on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 06:49:48 PM PDT

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        •  If you're feeling lucky... (none / 1)

          Well, if you're feeling lucky, you can go to Mexico and pick up as much of it as you like. How far can you trust it? That's a different question, though if it's in the original packaging and hasn't been tampered with...

          If it's a codeine-derivative, for pain, they are OTC legal in Canada, although in most provinces they must be sold in a form that combines codeine with caffeine, so that people don't take it and nod off at the wheel. If I recall correctly, in Quebec you can get pure codeine.

          -fred

          •  Geeze guys ! (none / 0)

            You make it seem like I've got tracks down my arms. I was talking about something far LESS intense than codeine. And what's with the all the talk about pain killers? Wow, what a great imagination, guys!

            There are many drugs that have a lot of controls, such as ADD medications, like Ritalin.  

            Personally, beyond a few of these weirdo unnamed perscriptions, I rarely take a aspirin.

            "We need, in every community, a group of angelic troublemakers..." -- Bayard Rustin

            by BK here on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 08:13:22 PM PDT

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        •  some dentists.... (none / 0)

          ...are relatively liberal about handing out pain pills if they know you're not a dope-fiend type.  For example Tylenol #3 (codiene), Darvon, and so on.  

          Personally I find that Darvon doesn't work as well as Tylenol #3 as far as pain relief goes, plus the Darvon makes me feel truly weird (rather than just mildly sleepy, which I can deal with).  Individual results vary.  

          Over the years I've always managed to keep a small supply of Tylenol #3 around because I never need more than one or two after a dentist visit (so the other ten or twelve in the prescription go into the emergency med kit, labeled with date of course).

          Aspirin, plain Tylenol, and Ibuprofin are always recommended for the med kit as well.  

          Note, beware of prematurely taking anti-nauseants and anti-diarrhea meds.  If you get something nasty in your guts (e.g. a bacterial infection or whatnot from bad food or water), the runs & pukes are your body trying to get rid of it.  If you stop up either end prematurely, the un-expelled nasty in your guts could make you a whole lot sicker or even kill you.  

          If you get serious stomach trouble and start to get dehydrated or run a fever, stay hydrated by taking very small sips of Gatorade at frequent intervals.  

          Disclaimer:  I am neither a doctor nor a lawyer, the above is neither medical nor legal advice, consult your doctor or lawyer or dentist as may be appropriate.  

    •  One nit on LD phone cards (4.00 / 4)

      Many prepaid long-distance phone cards "expire" in 12-24 months.  They ARE NOT cash.

      Check the small print.

      Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk. - Thoreau

      by harrier on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 03:56:12 PM PDT

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    •  I'd like to remind everyone of the most important (4.00 / 2)

      bit of survival information there is: Know your neighbors. Talk to them. Find out how prepared they are. It is not possible to care for yourself when those around you are in desperate need. This is the most difficult part of emergency preparedness, and the most important.

      -6.88/-5.64 * We won! We won!.... Now back on your heads.

      by John West on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 04:43:37 PM PDT

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    •  Clothes: WOOL, WOOL, WOOL (4.00 / 3)

      I'd like to add... now what was it? Oh yes: wool! Wool! Wool!

      If you are in any danger of getting wet during any of the disasters you're planning for, having a change of clothes is nice, but wearing the right clothes is vital. Specifically, we live in a cotton society, but cotton is only a fair insulator when it is dry, and it is worse than nothing (well, not quite, but close) when it is wet. It is quite possible to get hypothermia when it's not even freezing outside, if it's chilly and you're covered in layers of wet cotton clothing, nylon shells and waterproof whatever-you-like notwithstanding. It is nearly impossible to go hypothermic in non-freezing weather if you're covered in layers of wool.

      I'm afraid I'm not competent to discuss the expensive alternatives here, though I'm sure there are some High Performance Ultra-Kool Wool Camping Outfits that qualify. I went to a Salvation Army and picked up two pairs of brown wool pants, a little scratchy but not bad, and a couple of wool shirts. Wool sweaters I have plenty of. In these, I hiked four days through the driving rain in temperatures between 42 and 58 degrees Fahrenheit, without any problems other than my toes getting all wrinkly. Meanwhile, a less prepared fellow ended up having to borrow someone else's pants. Don't let this happen to you. (Seriously. Don't neglect the pants. If you read this warning, and there's any chance you'll get soaked, and your survival kit contains jeans, I will laugh at your funeral.)

      That's not enough, though: consider getting the good wool socks, since the lousy ones can raise welts. (The really good wool hiking socks are designed to be worn without sock liners, and they're in fact more comfortable than sock liners.) They cost me more than the shirts and pants combined, but they were worth it. Finally, underwear: polypro or other synthetic longjohns are fine, if you're in a cold enough area to need them.

      -fred

      •  Polypropolene underwear (none / 1)

        must be worn against bare skin for maximum effectiveness.  There are lightweight polypro shirts and drawers that are comfortable from the 40s to 60s, F.
        Gore-tex will keep you dry but not very warm.
        I agree on the wool.  Different thicknesses of wool can be worn in different seasons, and lightweight wool over lightweight polypro can be very comfortable.  For socks, the army issues a 50% wool/50% nylon blend that are very comfortable.  There are civilian analogues available that are relatively inexpensive.

        Men and women should keep a pair of broken-in sneakers (better yet, light hiking boots) in the trunk of the car.  You don't want to be wandering around a post-earthquake/tornado mess in heels or loafers, do you?

        "I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a democrat."--Will Rogers

        by soonergrunt on Fri Sep 16, 2005 at 08:08:00 PM PDT

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      •  Mea culpa (none / 0)

        I'll freely admit that I didn't spend as much time on clothing as I should have.  Good call on the wool.

        -AG

        "Watching George Bush trying to govern is like
        watching a monkey trying to f**k a football."
        I'm a libertarian, pro-2A capitalist Democrat.

        by AlphaGeek on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 12:19:09 AM PDT

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    •  This is SO helpful, AGeek. THANK YOU! (none / 1)

      Former soldier. Fighting every day for my country.

      by SilverWings on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 12:40:58 AM PDT

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      •  Haven't seen you around. (none / 0)

        How've you been?

        "I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a democrat."--Will Rogers

        by soonergrunt on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 04:35:29 AM PDT

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        •  Better now, thanks. Really discouraged for a long (none / 0)

          while (macro & micro picture), since about, oh, 11/04.  Finally got myself back up & decided to fight for MY country.  Every.  Goddamn.  Day.

          How you?

          Don't know whether you saw my note to you on another thread, now buried, but I second someone else's comment - you really should do a column for larger consumption.  You have a lot of important stuff to say.  (Me, I don't have the time / commitment to even do a decent diary.  I'm just a drive-by fucker.)

          Former soldier. Fighting every day for my country.

          by SilverWings on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 07:02:46 AM PDT

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    •  Cost of this project? (none / 0)

      Is there a cost sheet here to see waht is the LOW amount to stock up on, and the optional over-kill, but be very safe amount to stock up on?

      Gone Sailing, be right back.

      by tallboyridge on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 09:13:09 AM PDT

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